Make up or break up…

STAMPEDE IN CALGARY is a time for cowboy hats, boots, and big questions.

Last week, in a convention centre ballroom, I moderated a debate between Derek Fildebrandt, pro-separatist publisher of the Western Standard news and self-described “mosquito in the tent they just can’t quite kill, and Duane Bratt, Mount Royal University political science professor who was making the case for staying in Canada.

The room was lively and mixed. You would be correct to think the Western Standard event attracted pro-separatists. Emotions ran high, as they rightly should on a question this profound. Yet the evening stayed civil, substantive, and respectful. No spectacles. No walkouts. Just two sharp minds defending their positions while an audience listened — really listened.

Many have asked why I agreed to moderate.

The answer is simple: because someone has to insist on better questions.

I’ve worn many hats in my life — farmer’s daughter, elected politician, lawyer, energy executive, writer — but mother to three sons probably prepared me best for the role. Keeping two passionate debaters on track, ensuring each got a fair shake, and working for the audience rather than the loudest voices in the room felt like familiar territory. 

My job wasn’t to pick a side. It was to frame the exchange so Albertans could hear arguments tested, not slogans repeated. In an era of conflicting data, algorithms feed us tailored realities, and with AI amplifying every grievance, asking better questions has never been more urgent. 

We cannot navigate this October’s referendum on autopilot or outrage. Alberta’s future — and Canada’s — demands scrutiny of both the numbers and the emotions driving this moment.

I opened by acknowledging the obvious: many in the room had already saddled up on one side or the other. This debate wasn’t designed to flip minds overnight. It was meant to hold assertions up to scrutiny, recognize the gravity of the choice, and move us beyond “all hat, no cattle” rhetoric.The questions probed both substance and feeling. 

To Bratt: Support for separation and for triggering a binding independence referendum in October may cool. Yet this entire conversation — and all the “stay” versus “leave” campaigning — has put Alberta independence firmly on the national map. Other provinces are watching. Whatever the outcome of the October 19 referendum, if we don’t meaningfully change how Confederation works, the threat to Canadian unity will only grow bigger. Agree or disagree?

To Fildebrandt: The heart of Alberta’s frustration is a sense of unfairness. But how is an independence referendum fair to the many Albertans who want to remain Canadian? How is it fair to First Nations who object? A “Yes” vote means carving out federal parks, military assets, Indigenous reserves — unworkable partitions. And how is Alberta going it alone fair to the rest of Canada? Voting to move forward with an independence referendum is inevitably polarizing for Albertans and will cause more harm than pursuing greater sovereignty within Canada, as Quebec has done. Yes or no?

We drilled into economics.

To Bratt: Economists have been busy crunching the numbers on staying in Confederation versus going independent — equalization, federal rules, transition costs, and the price of running a new country. Pro-independence voices talk of windfalls and some say the numbers don’t even matter — independence is worth any cost. On the other side, big-city mayors and chambers of commerce warn that uncertainty will drive away investment and shrink Alberta’s economy. The argument has been put forward by pro-separatists that continuing as a province within Canada costs Alberta too much. Agree or disagree?

Governance realities followed.

To Fildebrandt: Governing a brand-new sovereign country isn’t simple — what’ll it be? Constitutional monarchy, republic, or something invented on the fly? How would immigration rules be decided? Rebuilding trust with Canada, the world, and even our own citizens will be a steep climb. Add in Indigenous rights, and the Trump factor — his potential willingness to recognize Alberta’s unilateral declaration of independence and chatter about joining the United States. Governance of a truly independent Alberta would be extremely challenging and very risky without Canada. Yes or no? 

We probed federal signals. 

To Bratt: Albertans are watching the Carney government’s next moves on the energy MOU as a litmus test of trust. There’s been progress, and Premier Smith has been clear she wants the expanded TMX west-coast oil pipeline on the national project list by October. But a recent Fraser Institute study warns that the energy MOU’s carbon tax and carbon-capture conditions make Alberta’s oil and gas uncompetitive. Albertans’ ballot-box decision this October will be heavily influenced by whether and how a new west-coast oil pipeline actually moves forward. Yes or no?

To Fildebrandt: Mark Carney and the Liberals have been in Alberta, flipping pancakes and announcing pipeline progress, but still warning the province’s flirtation with separation is dangerous. Federal Conservatives are also campaigning to keep us in Canada. Beyond pipelines, the federal government and federal players still need to — and can — take concrete steps to lower the temperature and reduce the risk of a “Yes” vote in October. Agree or disagree?

A telling follow-up went to both debaters: Is there anything Prime Minister Carney could realistically do in the coming months that would change your mind?

These weren’t gotcha questions. They were designed to surface trade-offs, emotions, and practical realities. Grievances are real — decades of feeling like the cash cow funding everyone else’s priorities have built legitimate frustration. But independence isn’t a simple escape hatch; it involves profound human, legal, and economic dislocation.The evening proved Albertans can handle this discussion maturely. Passionate groups gathered in the foyer afterward. People stayed, engaged, and left talking to neighbours rather than past them.

October 19 isn’t just another ballot. It’s a referendum asking whether Alberta should remain a province of Canada or begin the legal process toward a binding separation vote. Whoever frames the question well may shape the outcome — Brexit taught us that. 

Moderating wasn’t about neutrality on the issue. It was about fidelity to process: good-faith argument, evidence over assertion, emotion acknowledged but not weaponized. Alberta deserves a future decided by informed, engaged citizens — not by whoever yells loudest or memes best. That’s why I said yes. And I’d do it again.

What questions do you need to be answered on this question of Alberta independence? It’s a serious question.

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8 thoughts on “Make up or break up…

  1. Donna, I must first thank you for your thoughtful (as it always is!) conversation.

    You asked for other questions and I herewith provide my question. Before I do, however, I must provide a bit of background.

    Over the last few years Danielle Smith has campaigned against the “nine bad laws” and challenged the federal government to eliminate them. A goodly number of those “nine bad laws” actively intrude on provincial jurisdiction or are so right at the border of provincial jurisdiction that they might as well be viewed as provincial in scope. There are yet other areas that are offensive to many Albertans but I will concentrate on the “nine bad laws” as being representative of all federal over reach.

    Proponents of the “remain in Canada” position posit that, yes, there were offensive things but the “new” government of Mark Carney has gone a long way to reversing those things. By contrast, many “leave” proponents counter that a whole lot of the nine bad laws remain on the books but the administrative side of government has chosen / only indicated / yada, yada, yada to declare no intention to enforce those “nine bad laws” so the “reversal” can be undone.

    Okay, that is the background; now for my question:

    Working from the premise that a lot of the “nine bad laws” did intrude on provincial jurisdiction, notwithstanding Alberta’s representations of constitutional violations of those intrusions and working from the premise that the prior Prime Minister and his acolytes were responsible for the “badness” and that the current Prime Minister is responsible for reversing “badness” why should Albertans believe that a future Prime Minister might not bring back the “badness” to be followed by NO subsequent Prime Minister to reverse “badness?” Put another way, why should Albertans believe that future Prime Ministers will observe the division of powers between the national and provincial levels of government as set forth in the constitution?

    1. Fair question. And behind it is the irritation that any province’s relationship with Ottawa should hinge on the personality of the PM.

      1. And, there you have the reason that I am a separatist: I don’t believe that goodwill by ROC is anything other than transitory and that we are simply one more politician away from being disadvantage irreparably.

  2. Great to see you put this out Donna. Hopefully these types of debates will also occur in northern Alberta rather than just in the major cities in the southern half of the province.

    1. Agree. The reason for this post is to share the questions. Hopefully the questions can get clearer and better.

  3. Donna, sorry I missed this one — sounds like exactly the debate Alberta needed, civil and serious, the way big questions deserve to be treated. I’d add one thing to the list: immigration is also on this October’s ballot, and it matters to me deeply.

    As you know I came to Canada as an immigrant myself, after years serving my country, Venezuela, in public life. I understand the fear behind this issue — housing, jobs, the pace of change. That fear is not prejudice, and we shouldn’t treat it as such.

    But I’ve also learned, in two countries now, that the truth is stronger than any slogan, from either side. Professor Alexander Kustov said it well recently: immigration creates winners and losers even when it’s good overall, and honest policy means admitting that plainly instead of hiding behind comfortable half-truths.

    That’s the kind of conversation I hope Albertans have this fall — heart and head together, like your debate.

    Gracias for hosting it!

  4. Donna, as soon a s I heard about the debate, I said that you were the right person to moderate, and I was not disappointed. The questions asked were well framed and elicited some answers that citizens should hear before making a decision on in October. I am taking art in a similar discussion on Thursday and I believe that the questions you asked will once again be debated. Albertans must engaged themselves instead of just listening to the media and accepting comments made by both sides. Thanks once again for doing the hard job of moderator.

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